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Total 4.75 out of 5 stars. Based on 304 Reviews

MIGHTY Vaporizer

Very satisfied customer by Stefan

This is my first time ever buying something like this online. And it is also my very first vaporizer. And I only have positive things to say about all this! Was in contact with the support before buying and they guided me through this vaporizer-jungle really professionally, so thank you very much for that! And when I finally ordered, the delivery time shown on the page was very accurate! So thank you again. The vaporizer itself is really beyond what I imagined. I understand now why its called the Mighty Vaporizer. It really is! Dont bother buying the cheaper models. /S

MIGHTY Vaporizer

Mighty it is! by RMH

Yes this vaporizer has a well earned name I think! I have had a Volcano stationary for over a year and I didnt know they made portable also. When I see this and its also made in germany, strongest portable etc. I couldnt help myself. I had to get one! I made my order on a sunday and recived it on tusday! Crazy! Thanks alot for the best vaporizer shop and the best vaporizer!! (Portable hehe)

DaVinci Ascent

Magic! by PE17

Magic Vaporizers rules!! Hope the guys working with the site really reads this! You got the best vape shop! Fastest delivery, only great products and the best support! And the site itself is always up and running! Simply the best!! Magic! And yeah, I got this vape and a stationary. Love the battery time on this, its perfect for outside use :)

DaVinci Ascent

Nice indeed by Timbus

Its a nice little vape this one, too bad its not available in carbon fibre anymore, but Im glad I ordered one before they sold out (?). And I can understand why they did, they just look so freakin awesome with carbon fibre. And the digital display on there, really nice vape. Works without worries too and so its a great complement for my V-tower. the feeling of the mouthpiece is really nice, not like some others with that rubbery feeling. Very satisfied, highly recommend it!

Magic Flight Launch Box

for life! by pablo

this comes wit lifetime garantie which is the best about this one. I have this, another portable and a station one. I think every tru vaporlover should have this. its a great little thing. very very easy to use and never no trouble wit it. also I must say magicvaporizers.com seems very very serious busness. super quik delivery!! thank you so much!! and anybody want to buy this vaporizer do it, its for life!!!

Magic Flight Launch Box

This is it! by Dragonfly

I cant understand how I could have not seen this vape before, I started using vaporizers like 1 year ago, but completely missed this piece. very nice design and quality, works very vell too, no problems at all. the best about this site I think is that they show how much time is left before the vape can be shipped if bought! So you dont need to stress about anything here, this my third time bying from here and I always got my deliveries on the time written. Magic :) and yeah, now that I got this Magic Flight box I never use my other vapes anymore

Magic Flight Launch Box

Rock on ! by Rocky

First I will say that MagicVaporizers.Com deserves an applause! Best place on net for vapes. Ok. This one is my favourite vape. I actually have two; one maple and also one walnut that I just purchased. The maple Ive had for over a year now. Works fine, the maple I just got it and its like a dream version of the maple one :) this is a great innovation really... If you consider yourself a VAPER then you need to have one of these :) If I must say something negative about them its the battery time but really no problem at all... And for this price too, no wonder its called the king of vapes..!!

DaVinci Ascent

Everything you could ask for! by Rojvan

This vape has everything you could ask for! The design kills it! I purchased mine some months ago (my second vape) and I just love it! My old vape was nothing I could bring outside, it dissappoitned me everytime with either low battery lever or it just didnt work correctly. But this has a long battery time so its good for trips! I once charged it fully, put it in my bag and went away. It had been in my bag for 3 days (in cold, warm and on a train) and when I finnaly got to use it just worked without any doubts! Thats what I call a quality vape!

IOLITE WISPR 2

Cool with Butan gas by Jeff

I tried to do as much research I could about vaporizers before my actual purchase. But after reading and watching reviews for a few hours I understood that the vaporizers Magic offers is all of good quality and high standards. So I basically closed my eyes and just clicked on one of the many good looking vaporizers they offer haha. No not really but at first I was not digging the idea of a butan gas tank so much but I figured that I could give it a try (I like the odd things). And it seems Iolite is the only producer that supplies vaporizers with butan gas tanks? Anyway, Im very satisfied with my choice. So far it has been working perfectly without any issues. Warms up quickly, feels really good and looks really good as well! Nice one!

IOLITE WISPR 2

bargain by pierre

oh yes this is a bargain. this money is nothing in 2016. after i got it and start use it i think no other vaporiser can be this cool ;) i spend a lot of mine time on boats and i there for think this is a perfect salution. people ask me why i walk around with a radio :) i have only good things to say about this, and also about magicvaporizers.com with good delivery times and support. get it your self and you will see:) //pierre

IOLITE WISPR 2

Different in a good way by Stan_

Ok this vape is something different and uncommon. But in a good way I mean that. I have had a IOLITE ORIGINAL for almost a year before I got this one. I was very pleased with it but wanted to upgrade. Really got to like the butan solution so I ordered a Black Wispr :) The best improvement on this compared to the Original is that you can see the butan level on this one. I just hated when I was outdoors with my Original and the gas got empty! But anyway, this is a really cool and good-working vape! If I had to say one negative thing about it its that its a bit noisy when warming but its no problem really.. I recommend it! Its def a high quality product that delivers!

Arizer V-Tower

BUY by Ragdoll

People have to buy this! It’s a must for anybody in this game. Newcomers, oldtimers, everybody. Very easy to use, great display system. Once you find your way to use it witht he temperature, fan etc you will love it. MagicVaporizers deserves a big applause, lot of information about each vaporizer and no plain text that nobody reads, very informative and serious. Fast shipping and well packed. Talked to a guy who bought a similar vaporizer from another store and it seemed to have been used already and it started having charging troubles after only one week. I have now used this V-tower for approx.. 8 months and it never fails!!

Arizer V-Tower

Best vape store! by Daniel

This store is by far the best. I purchased this Arizer V-Tower a couple of months ago and so for I am only satisfied. No problems what so ever. The shipping time was only 2 working days to Sweden. And the price was really what made me look at this vape. At first I didn’t look at any vape under 200 euros but a friend of mine told me about this one. I read a few reviews and decided to give it a try. Now I see myself telling all my friends about this! So there is basicly nothing else to say. Fast shipping, good product, no strange errors or overheating. Just buy it!

Boundless CFX

pleased by Harrison

Didnt know which vaporizer to buy so I figured I give this one a try… I have had it for a few months now and it works just as described! No problems at all, warms up fast and looks nice. Get one yourself and try.. ! I was very pleased with the delivery, it took only 3 days to have it at home.. Buy!

Arizer V-Tower

Amazing by John_90

Just got this delivered last week and I am more than happy with this purchase! Really easy to use and understand, didn’t bother reading about it ☺ And for this price, with this reliable and fast fast delivery, whats there to think about? Its my second time buying here on Magic and I will be back for a third time, believe me! If I had to say one “bad” thing about its that the charger is a bit ugly haha but who cares?? Everything else is really amazing about this vape so If you think about buying one – just press the button and do it ! You wont regret it!!

Arizer Extreme Q

Ankebol by In love!

I think im in love wit this vaporiser. I have use it everyday after I buy it just 2 months ago. Was not really sure which vaporiser to buy and I really did not have all money for more expensive model. but from how I understand it is really very low price and people will still buy this even for 300! Also it is very easy to use this vaporiser I not even reed the instruction. I really really happy I buy this, and also I must say incredible shipping time, only 3 days! Now have the best (I think so) vaporiser and really smart function on this, but the best is remote control and sleeping timer. My advice to you if you reed this is stop think about buying, just buy it. You will never feel sorry for buying this really great vaporiser!

Boundless CFX

This Is good one, buy it by Rashh

Many vapes out there today and many are just plain crap. I didnt know what to think of this at first but I ordered it without any expectations. I got very happy! It is now my favorite vape and I have had many. Also tried many. Only looking at the price some maybe think its not that good but it is! Atleast the one I got! And I got it very very fast too I must say! Overall great experience everytime I come here :) keep up the good work guys!

Boundless CFX

Great vape by Denis

Great looking vape that also works great. No problems during my use since beginning of summer. Fastest shipping! Magic vaporizers should get award for the good job they do!

Arizer V-Tower

Great vape! by Onlinehustler

I was looking at this V-tower and the Extreme Q model. Since I am the only one to use it I went for this V-tower. Price was very attractive too. And speaking about prices, its good that Magic Vaporizers has free shipping: what you see is what you get. No weird extra fees or stuff like that. Straight forward site overall with lots of good info. Great reviews on here as well. Everything is in the same place, you just need to go here and everything you need is right here. Info, reviews, etc- So why wait, just order it! I will def be back soon!

Volcano Classic

WOW by Jeff

Yeah, it costs more than some similar vapes but for a reason! You just can’t get any vape better than this! I use this and a portably one. I absolutely love this one. Its like with all other things in life, you get what you pay for:) I stepped in to the vaporizer World some two years ago and during this time I have tried many different. But after a while you know what you need and you look no further. This is the ultimate vaporizer. Enough said. If you read this : buy it. Simple. Its impossible to not love it

Flowermate V5.0S Pro

Affordably and Good! by Michael

The vape world can feel like a jungle at first but here on Magic Vaporizers its all very easy to overview and understand the differences between each vape. I chose this one mainly for the price but also because of the design! Have had zero problems with it and I use it 3-4 times a week (for almost a year now) so it’s a good vape I’d say! Had a X-Vape before but it stopped working correctly after only a month. And it costs the same! So I would recommend this one to anybody looking for a good and not too expensive vape!

Boundless CFX

Dont just read go get one by Lasse

I was hesitant to order at first but now I regret that. The sooner you buy the better I now think. I also think MagicVaporizer dont sell any bad vapors. I think I would have been happy with either one I chose. But this is the one I chose and its great. Has a great quality feel to it and it looks very nice too. Order!

Flowermate V5.0S Pro

So far so good! by Logan

I got my vape – V5.0S Pro – just a few weeks ago and so far it works without any difficulties at all! I have a stationary one too that I use at home but this is a perfect complement. Warms up very fast (compared to my old one that never got fully warm before it crashed completely) and does it job with no hassle. Recommended! Also this site is highly recommended!! The shipping is for free and indeed fast too!! Im satisfied and will be back when its time for an update

Flowermate V5.0S Pro

Great! by Bjorn

I have had a few vapes over the years but this is one of my favs. Some others I had was working fine one day, only to break the next. But this one has stayed loyal all the time without any trouble! So big up for Flowermate V50S Pro! Dont look at the price and think its a bad choice because I know more expensive vapes that broke while this one is still warming and vaping ☺ and this is by far the best place to get you vape too! I was surprised by the fast delivery time! Many sites indicate that they have guaranteed shipping times etc, some even charges you extra for faster shipping. But here the shipping is always free and always fast! So thanks a lot for this Magic vaporizers and to anybody thinking about getting a Flowemate V50S pro – get it!

Volcano Digit

Fantastic by RobertÖ

I don’t really know why I am writing this ;) Everybody says the same thing and it is true! It’s the best vaporizer ever. Period. Dont be a fool by looking only at the price. Buy it and you will see

Boundless CFX

very nice! by Pabloo

I started to think buying this one mainly cause of design. Read good things on it and I buy it. think it looks better in real not in pictures. So very happy I buy this! Work fine now 4 weeks. Thank you to Magicvapor and hope see you soon : )

Volcano Classic

So good by Roshan

This vape is just soo good!!! Just look at it!! No other producers can come close to this vape! Yeah it costs a bit more but what would you expect! Its not Made in china! Many thanks to Magic Vaporizers.com for a great site and the ultra fast shipping! I also run a webshop and I know its hard to deliver this fast at all times! But seems they do it some how?? Anyway just GREAT GREAT site and GREAT GREAT vape!

IOLITE Original

Good price !! by Reza

I know that this vape cost more in some other shops,. so I think this is good quality vape for less money comparing with similar. I first think no vape under 150euro is ever going to last long. but I was wrong. Wich is good:) I especialy like it has no cables for charge. And quality feels good, no problem with the working of the vape. So it is a vape that I can very much recomend to other who think to buy it! buy it!:)

Volcano Classic

5 stars! by ArturW

I have now got this one just a some days ago. Took only 2 days for deliver to Poland. I was supprised! I see somebody make review of 4 star for Volcano Classic?? You have not money or what? It costed more then other vaporizers but do you want Armani shoes or deichmann?? I leave my Volcano on table everyday Im so proud right now. If I buy another vaporiser in future it will be the Volcano Digit!! Hey maby you poor people want to buy my Classic when this time come? Haha just joking. Thank you Magic Vaporizers and THANK YOU VOLCANO!

Volcano Digit

#1 (2, 3, 4 and 5) by 500SEL

This is not the number 1 vape, it is also number 2 3 4 and 5 ))) No but really, you cant find any better vape than this. So if you are looking at this one, don’t just look…buy…its really great!! Don’t be foolish and try to save some 200 euro on a cheaper one! I have dream about Volcano Digit for YEARS! First I said to myself I will buy the Volcano Classic, but then I went all in and I DON’T regret it!! A friend has a Classic and I try it every now and then but… No… This is the one !! The 1!!

Arizer Extreme Q

The best so far !! by Davey

I purchased this vape for like 6 months ago and I am now only using this one! Had 2 others at the same time before but never really liked any of them. Since I bought this one I haven’t been thinking about buying any other vape ! This is all you need ☺ BIG plus that it comes with a remote, thought it might be “china” but not, it feels and handles like a good remote should. So quality impression is high. The display is easy to understand too (not like my other with digital display!). And BIG THANKS to magicvaporizers.com for super fast shipping which was also free!! PS. At this price, you must add a grinder to your order :) won’t regret it!

Flowermate V5.0S Pro

All good by Warren

Ok, I bought this Flowermate Pro a while back and it has been working fine all the time for me. So imo its a affordable and reliable little vape! Warms up fast (always does, not only when it was new) and feels really fresh and clean. Its actually my third vape I bought from MagicVaporizers and I must say..they are really a great store for vapes! It only took 2 days to get it and the support here is awesome. Keep it up guys!!

Flowermate V5.0S Pro

Disappointed by Lina

I got mine and used it for a month before the heating just stopped. Magicvaporizers were very helpful and got me a new unit though so hopefully this one will last a bit longer or else I will buy another brand next time.

Flowermate V5.0S Pro

Outstanding by Loke

I am extremely happy with my purchase of the Flowermate V5S Pro. I have tried four different portable vapes and this one is by far the best. The others were NOT cheap ones. It is easy to clean, it is easy to load the material into the chamber, the heating element and degree of control is really wonderful as well as the long charge on the battery. I will be getting a second Flowermate V5S Pro for back-up.

Flowermate Aura

Affordable by Donut

For the price, this is a very good buy. Has a solid battery life, easy use and good production. Only downside is 5 min auto shutoff.

Flowermate Aura

(Y) by Dennis

Received the Aura in a timely fashion. Magic Vaporizers are top notch. The Aura is the best out there. Thank you Dennis

Flowermate V5.0S Pro

Likeable but sadly presented a cracked oven, this once atleast by NvonD

Worked like a charm. Was kinda awed over the bio-mass which is left over, and found my temp - 196' Celsius. However, coming home from a week long trip, it didn't start the warming anymore, when turned on. Upon closer inspection the ceramic oven was in 5 large splinters. Gently pressing it together made it start to warm again. But, applying superglue on those hair-fine cracks in oven was too much, and it stopped working. I'm sure I'll just be provided with a new oven. All that said, Flowermate easily offers best quality and functionality for the money, gets people to go "whoa" upon seeing, and testing it. Good stuff. Flowermate will remain as my go-to brand. Recommended.

Flowermate V5.0S Pro

Best for this price by Santa Balls

I upgraded from the 5.0 and thought the extra features would be nice but not important. I was wrong, the control over the temperature is amazing I get the tastiest and cleanest vape from a dry herb vaporizer I've ever had. The new ceramic chamber stays pretty much spotless. I have nothing bad to say about this elegant vape.

Flowermate Aura

Cheap and effective by Lepistö

Came fast and intact. Vape hits much better than expected, takes wax very well and is a steal at 88 €. Great purchase

Arizer Solo

Amazing & Simple by vovervatwaj

I have recieved my Solo 2 days ago so I can't tell much about reliability yet, but still. This is my first vaporizer, for which I have spent like 2 months reading reviews, watching videos etc.. such a waste of two months I can tell! I should have ordered one in a moment I firstly saw it. I can tell there are few tricks you have to learn if you want to pull out the best of it. I will describe my pattern that works great for me; 1. Turn on your Solo 2. Set it on 3rd heating setting 3. Grind your herbs well 4. Fill the bowl and press the material down a little bit 5. Insert the stem carefully into a heating chamber (I do it upside down and I also take it out like that - so nothing falls into heating chamber) 6. Wait around 10-15 sec 7. Slowly take long pull 8. Try to hold it in your lungs for about 5 sec for max effect 9. Repeat from step 6 - 8 one more time 10. Set your Solo on 4th heating setting 11. Do as described in steps from 6 to 8. 2 times (or once from step 6-9) ! 12. Set your Solo on 5th heating setting 13. Do as described in steps from 6 to 8. 2 times (or once from step 6-9) ! 14. Set your Solo on 6th heating setting 15. Do as described in steps from 6 to 8. 2 times (or once from step 6-9) ! 16. Take your stem out (upside down) and carefully place it somewhere as it will be very hot (side which was inside a heating chamber). 17. Wait for stem to cool down and then clean it as often as needed. Do not try to accelerate cooling down process as your glass stem can and probabbly will broke. This is how it works best for me. You can even continue to 7th heating lvl but you have to pull it really slow or use a bong or bubbler adapter, otherwise it will burn your throat a bit and you can start coughing. Holding a vape in your lungs for around 5 sec provides much stronger and long lasting high, actually more stoned high, than if you would blow it out immediately. That is something I have noticed in those 3 days I own it. Cleaning is super easy, I just make a strong blow into a heating chamber and everything that might cought into it is blown away. And for glass stems I use isopropyl alcohol - I dip it fully into it and then I wait around half an hour (I think you can leave it over a night so you don't have to wait for it) and then wash it with water a few times, so you flush isopropyl off completly. That's it. Happy vaping :)

IOLITE WISPR 2

Love them, but reliability and longevity is an issue. by Honker

I have purchased 4 of them now. 2 of the 4 have leaky tanks and will go through a fill in only one session. One of them won't light anymore..... but the tank doesn't leak. The other one I leave in Hawaii and it is still working well with less use. I love the portability.....I love that I can walk around with it and nobody knows what it is. It is loud when it's heating, but with the advantage of no batteries and being able to just carry a butane can for refills it's perfect. If they could improve the reliability of the unit I would give it 5 stars.....But if I have to buy a new one every 6 months due to failures, the shine comes off a bit I have talked to the manufacturers and they have offered to fix the issues if I send the ones in warranty period back, but I have not done that and that is on me. For some reason I just keep buying more of them....that may tell you something.

Vapir Prima

Aaaamazing by Dank Punk

OK, so the short version is this is an amazing vape and you should be happy with it, but read on for more details. I purchased this Vape as a replacement for the Ascent, which wasn't working as well after 9-10 months of relatively heavy use. I almost sent it back the same day I got it, but I'm glad I did not do that. I was stoked to open the package and when I laid my eyes on the Prima, I was immediately impressed by its craftsmanship and the overall quality of the Vape. Cutting to the chase, I filled up the chamber, put the Vape in my pocket and headed out to pick up a fish taco and head to the beach for a taco and vape session, stoked to be alive and excited to try out the new Vape. My excitement quickly turned to disappointment when I reached into my pocket to make sure the Vape was still in good shape, only to find my pocket full of herb and the "lid" (metal piece covering the herb chamber) had come off simply by me walking with it in my pocket. Unfortunately, I left my supply back at home, and I was forced to return home, get more herb, then drive back down to the beach (my fish taco was cold and disappointing as well by that time). My point being that this Vape is NOT designed to be a "portable" Vape, as it is marketed. Sure, it's not a desktop Vape, but it's certainly NOT one that you can just load up, throw in your pocket and whip it out when you need it. The "lid" that keeps everything in place does not have any sort of fastener to keep it in place. I think it just lightly "clicks" into place, but it comes off very easily. With that being said, this Vape is QUALITY. It's hands-down the best Vape I've ever tried. The hits are plentiful, smooth and robust. I don't think the bowl is small at all (compared to previous vapes) and I have no trouble getting 15-20 solid hits out of it (and I don't even pack it full). t's like a really good piece that you can take with you wherever you go, but you CANNOT load it up (or at least you're doing so at your own risk) and have it ready for when you need it. Perhaps I was spoiled by the Ascent, which has a chamber that clicks shut so you can fill it, then stick it in your pocket and pull it out whenever you need it. You can't do that with this one, but if you throw it in your pocket/car/whatever and pull it out when you need it and fill it up, you'll be good to go. The detachable battery makes for easy charging. The components are of high quality and the Vape cleans easily. Some people seem to think it's defective b/c you can't get thick clouds of vapor when the lights indicate the unit is at temperature. However, those people misunderstand how Vapes work. The lights blink green to indicate that the herb chamber is "at temperature," not to indicate that vapor is ready. It's like an oven. Assuming you put a pizza in the oven before preheating, the pizza will not be done when the oven preheats, it has to cook at that temperature before the pizza is "done." Similarly, the green lights indicate that the Vape is at the desired temp. You still have to wait for the "pizza" to cook and release the vapor while at temperature. Overall, I would highly recommend this Vape, so long as you know what you're getting prior to purchase. Again, this is not as "portable" as suggested by the marketing materials and reviews. Yes, you can stick it in your pocket, but you're going to lose all of your herb when the cap comes off - unless you're UBER careful while it's in your pocket. Just go to wherever you want to vape and pack it up there.

Firefly Vaporizer

Superb by Seth Rogen

Fill it up, turn on, press the heat button and inhale, it really is that simple. The vapor is so clean and pure that you don't even feel it hit the back of your throat. The Firefly is incredible.

Firefly Vaporizer

Cool unit by Hubert

Pros: Easy to use, excellent aroma, outstanding build quiality. Cons: Price, bowl is a bit small, battery life is short but improved with new upgraded battery.. I bought mine in the winter of '15. Battery lasted for about 40 minutes initially, but eventually that dwindles to about 25 minutes. I had to send mine in to MV for repairs (rubber gasket had come out of the chamber while replacing screen). They tested my battery and found it to be defective, so they replaced it with the new one. The replacment bettery lastst longer and seems to have more power, resulting in better vapor production. It's also built like a tank and has a nice design, very classy in an art deco kind of way. I recommend it, but make sure yours comes with the upgraded battery for best results.

Vapir Prima

better and cheaper by fin

easy to load, amazing clouds, pricey but my buddy has a crafty and mine is way better. rechargeable battery is a must and i can't say enough about the vapour quality, its just as good but he paid close to 400 € for his and when the battery craps out he knows he's stuck. honestly if you want that same vapour but save 150 € get this one instead. and it looks bad ass.

Firefly Vaporizer

Useless by Ex-user

This would not a bad device if the batteries actually delivered power to the unit to do what it is supposed to. Sadly, the batteries are terrible. They never last long, even when brand new, and two of mine have degraded after only about 15 cycles each to the point where they literally do not function long enough to let me operate the unit. Also, when they were new, a fully charged battery would lose its charge without any use over one or two days. So it was essential to charge just before use. Not very practical. Do not buy a firefly unless you are willing to shell out for lots of replacement batteries.

Vapir Prima

love it by åkE

its portability is amazing. perfect for any sporting event or outdoor adventure in waiting.

Vapir Prima

its alright but it gets hot by Silvio

Works amazing and the airflow is much better than my other portables. It is very convenient to use so i see myself using it more often than my Firefly and the taste is comparable if not better because the clouds are just much larger. I just dont like that sometimes the back part get a bit too hot. Overall i am happy.

Firefly Vaporizer

i like it by Lukasz

Ordered to Poland and got product next day. Very quick delivery now I hope I made right choice chosing this vapo. Was going to buy Pax 2 but then saw you updated website with this one so we hold thumbs :)

Vapir Prima

Good but not perfect by Barcelona>Real

Ok so I've been in a hunt to find a sleek design that has all the great features of the NO.2 Vaporizer. And I just about found it BUT the Prima gets HOT, and you have to let it cool before you finish your bowl. Now with that said I'm a heavy user and so I like to complete my bowls - the size of the bowl is great! All you need is one, but like I said it turns off before you can finish. On the other hand, it doesn't take very long to cool. The other 2 things I wish were different is the cap that covers the bowl does click on, but almost feels like its staying closed by a small magnet. As long as you don't have it in a pocket or purse (or drop it!) it's fine. This is perfect for a stay at home user. And the other is the battery has to be removed to charge it. Not a big deal except I've been spoiled with the N0.2 and you use charged or plugged in. Its all good. I like it enough to continue using it until it can't be used any longer; unlike others I've use and threw away after the first experience. Overall I like the small design the most.